User talk:Max/Archive 1
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L.A.R.T.
I'm not sure who hear is geeky enough to have heard this term, but LART means:
Loser Attitude Readjustment Tool
Usually this takes the form of a big foam baseball bat or some other thwacking implement. Anyway, I was thinking about the potential devestation someone could wreak if they wrote a perl script to just [expletive deleted] a bunch of pages. Does wikimedia have some sort of system for undoing ALL of a user's/IP's contribs? If not, I don't think it would be a bad idea to write one. For instance a perl script that goes to a users contrib page and checks each contribution for some pattern, like an image or message. If it find the pattern, it revertst to a version without it. Otherwise we could end up in a situation where an unchecked troll could turn the entire wiki upside down, leaving us to revert the whole damn thing by hand. Scary stuff...
--Phrontist 13:19, 14 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- It is very possible, and wikipedia has dealt with such attacks before. It will be a real pain, there is no doubt about it, and it is definitley possible for a really dedicated user to launch some very damaging attacks (I'll refrain from suggesting techniques). I can revert all of a users edits (Well i don't know how exactly, but i know i can do it for sure). MediaWiki is starting to include some features to prevent such attacks, and there are definitley some very simple measures I can take against most scripts, but lets jsut hope we don't get into this kind of a battle. --Max
- Where did the term LART come from, I've heard it (and the definition before), but never knew where it was from. --Sciencewhiz 23:55, 16 Jun 2004 (EDT)
Image Thumbnailing
How do I thumbnail images? For now I'll upload small versions, but that's wasteful of disk space. -- Phrontist 15:25, 2 Jun 2004 (EDT)
wikipedia:wikipedia:extended image syntax --Max 15:41, 2 Jun 2004 (EDT)
Ummm, above link leads to a non-existent article... Chris 12:29, 21 May 2005 (EDT)
Wiki Engine Update
Bugs
So all the <Team number> in <year> pages got messed up, eh?
About the Update
I really hope we aren't going to use the new wiki engine with it's horrible layout. It renders poorly on Mozilla and it's not standards compliant. Oh, and I like our current layout --Phrontist 17:30, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- Login again and change the skin. --Astronouth7303 17:33, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- You can't resist the future. I expect to update some time in the next few weeks. The new features are pretty useful. Templates that accept paremeters, categories, and more. And i love the layout btw (though maybe it just looks bad cause its broken on Mozilla). As for the bugs, they are being worked on as we speak. If you want to learn a little more, meta.wikipedia.org or test.wikipedia.org. --Max 17:35, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- I was somewhat resistant at first when wikipedia changed over ... but after a while the new layout sticks on you. And I got to the point where I couldn't stand the background color of the old layout! Works fine in Opera ... --Mrawls 10:04, 11 Jun 2004 (EDT)
Max Personally
Have you gotten any sleep?
- wait, wait, let me guess: "Sleep is for the weak" --Astronouth7303 16:19, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- No, no, no. I just effectively time my edits, so my presence is greatly increased. Seriously though, 2 out of 4 classes I have everyday i can do whatever i want during, so i just have time to check recent changes... --Max 16:31, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- Oh, i was refering to the thing last night. (1.3 test) --Astronouth7303
- No, no, no. I just effectively time my edits, so my presence is greatly increased. Seriously though, 2 out of 4 classes I have everyday i can do whatever i want during, so i just have time to check recent changes... --Max 16:31, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)
So, who is christine? (insert obligatory: *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*) --Phrontist 00:15, 4 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- Its not true!!! Damn "friends" think spreading rumors is fun... --Max 16:25, 4 Jun 2004 (EDT)
Teams: namespace
Why I thought teams should go under Teams namespace: It would be much easier to index and list all the teams. Same goes for people, regionals, etc. --SilverStar2 20:33, 26 May 2004 (EDT)
- Well by namespace i meant something that is actually recognized by the software. All of the non (main) namespaces have functions. Im still kinda getting the hang of this, but, for example, {{msg:asdfasdf}} inserts MediaWiki:asdfasdf and maybe Template:asdfasdf. The next version of MediaWiki (see www.mediawiki.org under 1.3) will have a better way to organize stuff then a makeshift namespace like "Teams:". It will include a categories system that allows automatic indexing and such. --Max 20:38, 26 May 2004 (EDT)
Error report
Max,
I was trying to add to the JVN article, hit preview a few times and then when I tried to finally commit, I get this message:
- Fatal error: Call to undefined function: iswindows() in /home/wiki/public_html/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 765
I then tested on my talk page to see if the problem was site-wide; it wasn't. So then I went and updated the article's talk page, saw you added a comment ... and tried yet again. This last time it worked. Now, typically when there're editing conflicts, this message doesn't come up (I know, I've got a few of them before, and they're somewhat aggravating). Just a casual bug report, that should probably be moved to a more appropriate place (I just noticed you were on and though you'd see it faster this way).
--Mrawls 20:12, 13 Jun 2004 (EDT)
Another error report
At List of robots that failed to qualify for FIRST, the Wikipedia linking template only gets executed 5 times. Thereafter the words "Template:Wikipedia" just get rendered. There seems to be somehing wrong. --SilverStar (Advay) 23:41, 16 Jun 2004 (EDT)
A quick chat on #mediawiki reveals:
<iammaxus> is it intended that templates only get executed the first 5 times in an article? ... <Cyrius> my understanding is that each template call requires a non-cached database access <iammaxus> so thats the reason for the limiting of template calls? <Fennecus> one of 'em <TimStarling> I basically designed the present template system for navigation boxes and the like <TimStarling> running a query for each template is a simple and efficient way to handle them
So, this means I can easily change this limit, but, it should not be abused. If you think we will have lots and lots of articles that needs multiple (I'm not sure what is exactly too many, but I guess more than 5) wikipedia or CD links, the link template should be abandoned, or at least put on the shelf until a solution I will not remove the limit completely because this is also the limit that stops an infinitely recursive template. Should I raise it enough to let you template link that whole page? --Max 00:13, 17 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- Your call. Is the server too busy for that kind of load? It all depends on that. --SilverStar (Advay) 20:29, 17 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- No, I'm not worried about the effect of one page, regardless of what i set it to, anything more than 5 or so should be rare, raising it is just for convenience sake. Right now (off-season), the server is definitley not too busy, but we might as well start running everything the right way. --Max 01:29, 20 Jun 2004 (EDT)
- Doesn't the MSG: thing make it cache? --Astronouth7303
- I thought so, but apparently not, try the sandbox. --Max 01:29, 20 Jun 2004 (EDT)
Nice move on the sandbox. (BTW, Max/Archive1) --Astronouth7303 20:18, 16 Jul 2004 (EDT)
- actually, I wanted to see if FIRST has hotlink protection on their images because I suspected it from unrelated reasons. Its probably a good idea to keep the sandbox small so it is easy to use for new users. As for the archive, I think people (nerds) have a tendency to over categorize and organize some things. My view is, organization is simply used for reducing the amount of time required to get what you want. Too much organization increases this time by requiring navigating through several branches of a large tree. In this case, I think anyone can easly find the conversation they are looking for on this page, so I will leave it. If you don't agree, look at any wikipedia talk: page that has archives, the current talk: are usually 2-3 times this size. --Max 23:52, 16 Jul 2004 (EDT)
welcome to visual wiki
[moved from http://visual.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/DavidCary]
Hey David, just curious how you came across http://firstwiki.org (I see you added it to the list of places looking for logos). I am http://firstwiki.org/index.php/user:max from FIRSTwiki and I had just randomly done a google search to see what the public face of FIRSTwiki looked like. Thanks. --Max
Hi Max.
Thanks for dropping a note on my wiki.
I have been interested in robotics for a long time.
The other day someone mentioned "wouldn't it be cool to have a robot wiki ?" (briefly mentioned at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/community/IfYouBuildItTheyWillCome ; far more detail at http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/StrollThroughTheWikiNodesNetwork ).
So I googled for "robot wiki". I think that's when I found this wiki.
When I saw you had a LogoContest, naturally I made http://visual.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/LogoContest link to it.
--DavidCary 22:29, 21 Jul 2004 (EDT)
Well if have browsed this website for a few minutes, I'm sure you know at least a bit about what FIRST is, but if not, it is a robotics program where high school students and professionals work together to build robots to compete in a competition. There are over 900 teams internationally. It is focused on FIRST, but any robotics related topic is appropriate for the site and we would be very thankful to anyone who could add something.
If you think you can contribute to a team (there is always a way) I highly encourage you to find a team near you and get involved. It really is an amazing program, it has to be if it can cause me to waste so much time maintaining a wiki for it :) . --Max 01:16, 22 Jul 2004 (EDT)
other robot wiki
I created a list of robot-related wiki at http://www.worldwidewiki.net/wiki/RobotWiki -- feel free to add any others you know about.
Dang... I missed something, didn't I? --Astronouth7303 22:44, 13 Aug 2004 (EDT)
FLL/Vex Subdomains
In FIRSTwiki:Village pump#FLL/Vex pages, I believe you are misunderstanding me. I don't mean create new namespaces (or psuedo namespaces). I mean create new instances of MediaWiki on specific subdomains. So we'd have fll.firstwiki.org and vex.firstwiki.org (and maybe even frc.firstwiki.org).
I understand how it is a large undertaking, but I know it's possible. I also know that if either of the other two really get going, we are going to have a lot of similarly-named pages. --Astronouth7303 14:13, 14 May 2005 (EDT)
Uploads
Thank you for upgrading last night. The uploads are broken; permissions. --Astronouth7303 08:25, 13 December 2005 (EST)
- Now thumbnails are broke. Image:971 logo.jpg --Astronouth7303 19:39, 15 December 2005 (EST)
Main page
Thanks for giving me the sysop privilege. I'll work on the page and let you know if I have any questions. I'll set up a temporary page accessible from my user page to get everything good enough before actually changing the main page. Thanks again, -Hollis1138 16:44, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
Changing a username
Apparently a user was created called Somemoron and its removal has been requested here. Since you're the only bureaucrat, you are the only one who can change it, or we can block him if necessary. - Hollis1138 22:32, 21 August 2006 (EDT)

